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Can The Manager Manage? - Part 2

Can The Manager Manage? - Part 2

In response to last weeks article by Oldjom, about the apparent lack of support in the boardroom and in the transfer market for manager Billy Davies, we've taken a few snippets from the forum in support of the club and the way they're going about things.

MrPinchy:

I'd be interested to know how close you think Billy really is to quitting. He seems to spend most of his life being wound up so it's difficult to know when he's genuinely reached the end of his tether. One other thing on this for those concerned that Billy might be enticed away as a result of this - there's precious little money around in football at the moment, outside the usual suspects, so any club looking to build gradually and on a budget might look at Billy's record of falling out with his directors over money and think he's not worth the aggro. I like Billy and think we need him. But he needs us as well at the moment. For the sake of his career, he can't afford to walk away blaming everyone but himself again.

red_kev:

Forget Derby and Leicester's signings, we are after better than that. The problem is that the better players are still coveted by the Prem clubs e.g. Shorey and Moses and I think we aiming higher than we can realistically attract at the moment.

And therein lies the dilemma. Given the standard of player we are trying to attract our panel are bound to fail. Did we get lucky last January? Yes, but those signings were not Prem quality and our sights are much higher now.

Billy is disappointed as we all are. But is he also unrealistic?

BourneForest:

I wonder if we want too much as fans.
You dont' have to go very far back into history to cringe with shame. Several years in League 1, with abysmal football. Relegation with journeymen from the Championship. Players on gardening leave because of lack of passion. Dressing room unrest. Tales of drunken nights out before cup games, players releasing formations and lineups before games, the list is long and it's not pretty.

Now we are very close to automatic promotion with a squad of passionate, dedicated, skillful players and a manager who will fight tooth and nail for every last inch.

We are short a left back. Our squad isn't as large as some, but lets have a bit of perspective ! The turnaround in fortunes has been so dramatic and so fast, to start throwing toys out of the pram because we may end up slightly short of automatics is beyond the behaviour of spoiled children.

The reasons for lack of signings could be anything, If I were to guess I'd suspect the velocity of change has caught the club short financially and all the posturing is a veil to maintain the spirit and feeling of strength without scaring off future sponsorship and investment. We have recently secured a longer sponsorship deal and won the right to host a major tournament in the city.

We are in fantastic shape - lets not forget the best signing the AP have made - Billy himself.

daddyreddog:

None of us are in a position to know what has happened, how near or far we've been from signing the players required. There is NO point whatsoever, in bringing in substandard players just to make up the numbers. Cohen, Perch & Lynch are better LBs than many in the CCC. It's a player capable of improving Forest that we require. Ordinary LB's are ten a penny. I'm over the moon with the season Forest are having, and I for one think it will get better yet.

CityGround4Ever:

The AP was not wrong during last Summer, nor the summer previous was it? I thought we made very good signings during those windows.

January signings and Forest have never walked hand in hand. In fact, I can only remember Gareth McCleary being signed during a January window, and we as fans were saying 'Who?'.

To suggest some sort of conspiracy theory against the manager seems a little OTT to me. However, everyone is entitled to thier opinion. And let's face it, 99.99% of what is written on these boards is someones opinion.

Throughout this season Billy Davis has given his opinion that we are not ready for promotion, we are aiming for a season of consolidation, etc.

As someone said earlier, we are having a fantastic season, let's enjoy the ride.








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Writer:guinless
Date:Monday March 15 2010
Time: 11:13AM

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