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Date:Monday August 20 2007
Time: 4:31PM
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De Vries - The Lying Dutchman
If ever there was an example of why professional footballers should be banned from talking to the press after a game, then Swansea City keeper Dorus De Vries is a shining example to them all.
There will be no arguments from Forest fans that Swansea deserved the points on Saturday, but facts are facts and they didn't score. That fact is due in no small part to an exemplary goalkeeping display from Forest shotstopper Paul Smith.
De Vries had the brass neck to tell the Swansea Evening Post. ''Forest should get the hell out of here quickly because they must be feeling ashamed after getting hammered like that. They celebrated like they had won the Carling Cup and I suppose if a draw is what they came for they've done well. But we hammered them - they had one shot and didn't do anything else in the game - and if we keep playing like that I know the points will come our way.''
What on earth is he on? To win any game of football you have to score and the simple fact is, that his strikers failed, despite having a shed load of chances. Paul Smith had a fine game and will take great pride in his performance.
Now I did a little digging on our dear friend Dorus and it would appear that he may have something he should be ashamed of himself. Prior to joining the Swans, he was at Dunfermline and courtesy of this article in Wikipedia found this and I quote. 'On May 11, 2007, he palmed a tame free kick into his own net against Inverness to end Dunfermline's 7-year stint in the Scottish Premier League. De Vries is considered a good goalkeeper who has represented Holland at U-21 level, but the towering Dutchman is likely to be remembered by Dunfermline fans for his blunder which consigned his side to relegation.'
Swansea fans will do well to remember this. I know Forest fans will. What's that saying about people in glass houses again?
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50 odd games with Calderwood in charge with only 2 or 3 good performances. I think the keeper is bang on with his comments, I went to Swansea on the last two occasions but not this time- it's rubbish (the football, not the place)
Johnny Kipper
What players are not allowed to freedom of speech now. Regardless of his mistake at Dunfermline it would serve you better to remember he was offered a contract at wigan and championship sides he impossibly the best keeper in this division. Forest came for a draw and put 8 men behind the ball so much for Champions elect tag many pundits put on you at the start of the season.
sbrjack
His remarks were inflamatory and were bound to cause a reaction. If that's what he intended, it worked.
guinless
Is this article written by the guy who thought we were in North Wales?
And what exactly has he lied about anyway?
amankwag
de vries is correct, and i seriously doubt the guy who wrote the article knows much about football. okay, we didn't score on saturday, but when we come to the city ground, if you play like that again you will have a hiding. you were crap on saturday, simple as. oh, and as for favourites, you guys are having a laugh, we may have not scored on saturday, but you guys haven't scored this season. I would be more concerned about sorting that stat out, than having a go at our keeper, for speaking the truth.
Burdett
I agree with most of what you say Burdett, except we don't claim to be favourites to win this League. That's the bookies opinion, and they're the ones laughing at the mugs putting money on Forest!!!! You'll find most Forest fans on here are fair and realistic when it comes to posting about their team. We do need to sort it out up front, but it's only a matter of time before we start moving in the right direction. I hope!!!
RedSmedDownUnder
Sounds like you're not happy that the 0-0 scoreline hasn't hid the fact that you were outplayed for most of the game. Yes we didn't score but you crowded us out in the final third, we were outnumbered and still managed to create chance after chance, and hit the woodwork twice. and what keeper doesn't make mistakes? lehman did on the weekend. Despite his huge error he is still respected by the majority of dunfermline fans.
KevinE
Personally, I really like the way Swansea play, but feel the need to post my first ever comment. Pre-season favourites - what like we have been for the 2 previous unsuccessful seasons? Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Swansea had their strongest possible starting line up & Forest had Holt & Agogo playing whilst at best 70% fit. Tyson, Lockwood, McGugan, Breckin (c), Davies & Cohen all absent through injury and not to mention our 3 kids, Maloney, Sinclair & Thornhill (all three are 18 years old former academy players) - all featuring in this game. So, with a difficult away game, severly depleted squad and 7 of the 'fit' outfield players being used mainly in defensive roles previously what did you expect?? This is what football is all about, securing an away draw or 1-0 away win & as Forest fans - we are more than used to seeing teams come to the City Ground with 10 men behind the ball - look at our first home game against Bournemouth (when we hit the post twice)! Pro's like DeVries should be mindful of comments that may come back to haunt him - so, I look forward to seeing some of you at the City Ground - where he can really back up his comments! To sum it up, away point - JOB DONE, whether lucky or not!
Our Kids Dad
I just wanted to appear here again, as it's getting close to the record of most comments
Johnny Kipper
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