Hopefully he won't make the mistake of playing Moose EVER again!!

To be fair to Moose, its not just that is it.
Why change a team that has played so well and scored 6 goals in 2 games?
Yes he may have seen us concede 2 poor goals against Palace, but the changes he made were never going to address that.

Poor poor management IMO.

Edited by RipleyRich 2/1/2013 10:21

Bet you were gutted at this poor management Rich. Like the others who could scarcely wait to complain about the manager of Nottingham Forest Football Club.

Think when and if our expectations become realistic , we should accept that the best we can hope for this season is play offs . We are still inconsistent and unable to put a convincing run of performances together .
The increase in prem tv money has clouded a lot of peoples thinking (owners,supporters,managers) and our expectations for this season have become totally unrealistic .
Yesterday we played a very poor Blackburn and lost big time , beginning of October we played against a Just relegated Blackburn side with our thrown together squad and managed to compete and look the better side .
Since then we have not progressed significantly to really mount a challenge to this league .Think our squad presently is massively under performing .
We as supporters have tried to move along to quickly and need to be a little more honest .We just ain't good enough at present .

Some of us didn't think there was much wrong with the old manager of Nottingham Forest Football Club.

You know- the one who was in post this time last week and about to stuff Leeds

I'm a big fan of SO'D, have been for years, was delighted when he signed as manager, but even on the night I had a niggling doubt that he wouldn't get us where we wanted to be. As time went on I became less and less convinced.

I would still have given him another 12-18 months to build a decent squad, but I never, ever believed he would get us promoted.

Frankly, as much as I'd love to see us become England's Barcelona, and as much as I love the myth of the Forest way (how were/are West Ham, Newcastle, and Liverpool doing with sticking to 'their ways'? Not great recently - How about Man City, how are they doing since abandoning the 'City way'? Infinitely better? People are too afraid of change), it's incredibly unlikely. And clubs that stand still, erm, stand still.

We complanied when Doughty didn't seem ambitious. We complain when the new owners see too ambitious.

Either way, don't talk to me about SO'D as we likely have the same opinion of him. Our difference lies in the fact that I will support whichever manager comes in, as I did when there was doubt over Billy Davies (reaction to him early on was very similar to AM's reception, though most won't admit that now), and as I did when I believed that Cotterill could keep us up.

Spot on. Not surprisingly the usual pompous chest beaters emerge and either slate the guy or detail ,at length ,their allegiance.The selection in midfield was flawed as simple as that. It had actually started to gel and have an impact from about 20 minutes in against Leeds and AM disrupted it for reasons best known to him......however he has had 1 game and just a few days... a bit early to judge even for the hyper judgemental!!

Dorest, are you referring to the Guedioura substituion?

Dorset, my apologies.

McLeish mentions he may be looking for a dynamic attacking midfeilder. I reckon he should go for a polish lad called Radoslaw Majewski.

Aww c`mon SB, you should know me better than that by now!

As far as I am aware I have made a factual statement and asked serious questons about his reasoning for disrupting a team that won in style against Leeds and played some excellent football against Palace creating many chances, scoring 6 goals in 2 games and looking like a plan was coming together.

Why did he feel the need to tinker and why go negative with his selection in midfield. Not a great start IMO.

Fatigue, knocks, attitudes. A variety of reasons. AM sees them every day in training, has their stats on a variety of biological things.

We have the internet and assumptions.

I know what I trust.

It's in his nature. His first, second and third thought is to defend. Fourth thought is to nick a goal. It won't be pretty. I think Fawaz has made a huge mistake. Time will tell though.

Couldn't agree more. I think our thoughts are in the minority on this forum at least but since when have the majority always been right?

All this instability regardless of managerial choice will harm the club as it has over the past ten years.

It's been said before but it's worth repeating:

Buying managers and players takes cash - building teams takes time.

So making changes in game 1 is worse than making constant changes for the last 24? I wouldn't mind betting SOD would have picked exactly the same starting 11 against Blackburn, but we'll never know.

Patience Rich, I thought better of you than this.

I dont believe he would Al, but we will never know.
The last thing I would expect a new manager to do is change a team that is performing before he has had proper chance to evaluate his squad.

But just look at all the previous games. SOD regularly changed his teams. That was one of the criticisms leveled at him every week. Personally, I wouldn't have picked Moussi either, but even in his last two games we were leaking goals and that has to stop. That's 7 goals conceded in 3 games now. We know we can score goals. We have to stop the opposition scoring first. Even Cloughie had that philosophy.

AM said in his interview that the changes were made after discussions with his back room staff and sports scientists as certain players were tired/carrying knocks etc. its a squad game. AM needs to learn how good/bad his squad is. he could save some time and come on here and he would soon realise that he knows less about the modern game of football than the posters on here and his squad (apart from sharp) is not worthy of pulling on the shirt

I agree you need to stop conceding.............however, its no use taking the creativity out of your side or you get what you got yesterday...........no goals scored .....................and conceding 3 into the bargain.

Like I said Rich, I wouldn't have picked Moussi either, but I'm also not going to criticise him for doing exactly what SOD was doing and especially not after ONE game, when we don't know what was going on behind the scenes with respect to fitness, knocks etc.

If you asked everyone on here to pick the team, we'd end up with about 20 different choices at least. If football management was that simple we'd all be doing it.

I will add myself as another in total agreement with this.

Hmmm How many sides have scored less than Forest this season ?
How many games did "yawn" play Geddy alongside Maj ?
How many sides have a better front two than Sharp/Cox ?

Yet AM is being criticised after one game, which came at the end of the busiest period of the season for making a couple of changes which SOD did weekly and by the same People who are preaching patience !!!

Bizarre

Alright Jom. I am just not convinced by AM. Please tell me I'm wrong and that he is more likely to get us promoted whilst playing decent footie. I feel very down and unimpressed by Fawaz's appointment and also the way SOD was sacked (by phone). That is disgusting if true. He'd been at the ground hours earlier. I can't help thinking we might even regress for the remainder of the season.

If we are honest with ourselves from the 4 changes that were done yesterday, only the Moussie/Raddy swap didnt have the consensus of the majority in here....Ayala ,lans and Cox are all deemed better options to the players they replaced...and replacing raddy with Moussi was countered by swaping Lans for Cohen ...just watched the highlights, and in the first half 2 bad decisions by Lans and Cox ,negated Sharp from going through 1 on 1 against the keeper...and from the past games we know that ,the probability is that Sharp would have converted...